Fortunately, the pay rate for activity some might consider as similar to trolling hasn't changed.
re: ad 'pay' rate: I realize everyone's experience varies somewhat. Without a doubt, my average ad value has increased over what it was 5 months ago-- I haven't seen one below 15 silver in quite a while, and I see 250 silver with some regularity. (This when comparing similar phones that didn't benefit from a glitch in the system with an outdated app.)
My hourly 'pay rate' has declined because I'm seeing fewer ads. I can't tell whether that's at least partially because I'm only swiping when it's ultra-convenient, during times that I used to usually avoid because there were fewer ads, whether it's just a slow ad period, or whether it's a 'core' change.. I don't need more Gold with the current options for using it.
Re: redemption value: For low-allotment users, switching to Essentials does indeed drive down (decrease) the return. For those who are a good fit for Essentials, the return increases by a factor of 4 at max. (Lower per-unit cost than Infinite.) .
CN needs an option that is a better fit for low-allotment users.
Nobody was earning AND spending 40 gold a month before.
To do so means the earning rate (using the $10 essentials plan as the benchmark) would only have been $1 an hour. And since the Essentials plan can be had for $5 a month via ebay, that drops to 50c an hour.
The only use case where cellnuvo made sense was light use. That has now gone.
The only earning strategy that made sense (seeing that better redemption options were and still are promises), was a handful of gold to cover that light use.
I am going to call out Isamorph here because that is exactly how he approached cellnuvo. Bravo Isamorph!
I don't know whether anyone was spending 10 Gold or more a month previously at CellNuvo-- which would generally be the breakeven point where Essentials beats Infinite-- not the $40 expenditure that you mention. I'm not going to complicate matters by assuming an equivalency between rates that are prepaid in bulk for a year against a monthly rate.
I do know for certain that many CellNuvo users were excited about the possibility of changing to the Essentials plan when the arrangement was first announced (EDITED, to provide clarity), because it was a good fit for their needs. Whether they were already using that much at CellNuvo, or whether they were using a similar plan elsewhere is irrelevant-- the payout increases in comparison to Infinite if Essentials meets your needs. (It does not meet mine, at the current time. It might meet mine next year.)
Well... it's been 24 hours and no response from CN Support on updating my new RP number for my account or app. I already know there will be no response over the weekend.
Sooooo... with that... and doing numerous swipes today on the app with ONLY a few Walmart, Abreva and a Toyota silvers... I think I'm giving up on The CellNUVO Quest...
I'm now looking at the Tello "Pay As You Go" plan. You can buy 333 minutes voice (3 cents a minute) for $10.00 or 1000 txt (1 cent per txt) for $10.00 or 500MB for $10.00. As long as you use your phone at least once every 3 months the credit amount you purchase will stay active. Payment increments are $10, $15, $25 and $50.
From Tello Help Center website:
Does my Pay As You Go credit expire?
Starting September 1, 2017, if you don’t use the service for 3 months, the credit will expire and the Tello service will be disconnected. Otherwise, the balance and your number have unlimited validity as long as you call, text or surf the web.
Tello is a great PayGo choice-- good cheap monthly plans, too, for those with modest needs. And great customer service.
Your CN balance should remain available for later use, as long as you swipe at least one ad per month (I think?). Check back later & see if the options for using your balance have improved.
Thanks for the help with recommended procedures, even if it hasn't worked out for you yet!
As much as I liked getting R+ for free, the constant shenanigans, incompetence and stupidity towards the end meant that when I moved a line to Tello, I was more than happy to pay for the professionalism and simplicity.
Man... wish I would have done this months ago but was hoping CellNUVO would get all this fixed and I'd be back in business. Tello couldn't have been easier and love "The Dashboard", setup was a breeze!!! My phone is finally working again!!!
In Their latest statement nuvo states "infinite plan with Red Pocket (basically between how we originally set up the plan and Red Pocket telling us how they built this plan, we misunderstood some of the nuances which caused various misunderstandings and incorrect expectations). As a result, this plan will not be available after this year ends. All customers who are on the Infinite plan must select a new plan before the end of the year (or will lose service on January 1). "
January 1st they better have all this straightened out or there will be many with no service. 3 days and counting with no change of app number to temp # so I can refill to the 10 gold plan on redpocket
Same here. No change to my app phone # & no top up for 10 gold plan. I still think this app phone # must be same as Red Pocket # is total BS for 10 gold plan. Makes no sense at all since there is a field to enter the RP phone # on the app store purchase. Just another CN BS.
30 gold sprint payment processed successfully today. Submitted a day ago and followed up today with cellnuvo support who confirmed it had been processed.
10 gold to redpocket processed a few days ago in less than 24 hours. Moved from the infinite plan to the essential $10 plan with a 10 gold top up.
CellNuvo suddenly closed my account around Nov 18th or so.
Ph # released available for activation anywhere so assumed ph # would be gone & re-used.
I had tried to make payment via the app just before it got closed.
From that payment attempt, I received email from Stephanie that CN could see I tried to make payment but I needed to contact RP to get my ph # reactivated.
Contacted RP several times to attempt to do that. Was advised RP was retrieving my ph # to give it some time to reactivate (between 2-24 hrs). Contacted RP several times & RP kept saying they was able to retrieve #, give it time.
Tues night RP said that attempts to reactivate were failing with an error & to contact CN
So filed support ticket with CN late Tues night 12/19/2019. Received reply Wed again saying to contact RP to try to get status to either "Needs initial refill" or Active.
Contacted RP Wed & told them that exact thing CN said & finally learned my ph # couldn't be retrieved anymore, it was gone for good. Thought what the heck might as well have them issue me a new ph # which they did & setup new acct so to speak on myredpocketmobile refill login that showed "Needs initial refill".
Finally able to do Profile update. Progress I thought but knowing everyone & even CN had told me the ph # in the app must match my RP ph # I figured I'd have to get CN to change ph #in app before I could get this phone working. Since I thought what the heck while waiting for CN might as well try to make payment via app using my NEW ph # which does NOT match what's in the app.
Updated my ticket giving new ph # saying I needed to have app updated to show it. Told them I made initial top up using 10 gold & attached screenshot from the app showing confirmation.
Received quick reply back (edit: at 504pm), CN could see my top up request & to give it 24 hrs to process & they'd put in request to change my ph # in app but and I quote "updates are taking a while but as long as you enter your correct number in when topping up, we have had them go through."
Just before midnight Wed night, on a whim checked status on myredpocketmobile login & lo & behold it was showing Active AND I was on the Essential plan AND I had mins/sms/data allotments of 500/500/500. Made a call, it worked! as did sms & data.
SUCCESS!!!!
I have a working device though with new ph # which wasn't important anyway.
So the ph # doesn't always need to match the app as per their reply. But I'm not sure if CN pushed the payment through or not. It was late & haven't received a reply yet saying they did but they had the screenshot and could have done it & just not replied yet. So not 100% sure this qualifies as successful payment via app.
After messing with this for almost a month finally got it taken care of in 2 days. I'd have gotten a new ph # sooner if I'd known it would work but maybe CN is making progress on payments made via app with mismatched #'s. And I was VERY pleasantly surprised at the speed CN was replying to my ticket.
Success, first 10 gold Red Pocket payment and changed to $10 30-day 500/500/500 plan.
Less then 24 hrs. Used new/current phone number instead of account number (in app the old no. still present). Didn't do anything more then CN in app purchase.