Any updates on the transition?

BTW I just realized that the Franklin R850 hotspot cannot do 3G at all - Both my old and new homes are in Sprint 4G LTE dead zones but my FreedomPop CDMA smartphones can limp on 3G there. As Ting allows you to run your phone as a hotspot I guess there's no reason to keep service for your R850? I also have a FreedomPop hotspot that's on the AT&T network with RP now - dunno if they will ever have a $20/20GB deal like Ting though ...

I just cancelled my Sprint lines... I wonder what would happen to those Sprint CDMA phones after TMobile takes over Sprint.

I certainly hope that there is a freedownmobile offering free phone service via Sprint network.

They will likely fade away over several years, unless Dish (with Boost and Virgin) decides to continue with CDMA.

My CDMA-only phones are now about 3 years old. By the time (ex)Sprint CDMA is totally phased out, I'll probably be wanting to replace them anyway. Heck, that's longer than the first multi-carrier phone I got remained multi-carrier. (Moto G4 Play, which lost Verizon capability due to no VoLTE, and is in practically the same boat for T-Mobile use. It may be a race to see whether the last usable network for it is (ex)Sprint, or AT&T.)

Well I for one will be glad to see the end of CDMA.

Redpocket free for fpop users.

I've still seen no word from RP on anything CDMA-related, nor what's happening to my GSM line. Anyone?

https://support.freedompop.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3695/~/what-to-expect-now-that-freedompop-has-partnered-with-red-pocket%3F

This is the latest news I have seen posted 12th June 2019. It reads to me that they plan to keep the status quo for the time being. I think that since they bought the rights to the name there is no immediate rush to implement any future changes.

None here, on either front.

Re: GSM: I'm now operating on the theory that RP is going to continue the existing plans unchanged for the time being, and that we may not hear anything about any planned changes soon. I'm using mine the same way I've used them before, since I haven't seen significant changes in the TOS.

I'm also curious about the expectation of some folks that they'll wake up some morning to find cellular voice added to the GSM lines on the free plan. Besides not making sense to me from a marketing cannibalization viewpoint, I'm also wondering if that would likely be an easy thing to accomplish.
I remember comments from smarter folks (long ago, in a forum far, far, away) that there was something intrinsically different between the number spoofing done on FP CDMA lines and GSM lines-- basically that the CDMA lines did have 'real' numbers associated with them, and the GSM lines did not. (Or the GSM lines had an extra step of 'spoofing' involved to issue FP #'s, or something-- frankly, it was over my head to even evaluate the concept being explained.)
Paired with your previous comments, LiterallyUnlimited, about why GSM lines generally require a new SIM to change a phone number, I'm wondering if adding cellular voice to the LTE SIMs (without replacing the SIM) is even a likely logistical possibility. (Note that I'm not saying it's a problem, but only that I'm wondering if it might be......)

Re: the possible addition of FP/RP CDMA: Ting has been far more informative about the process & kinks than Red Pocket-- but I've got to think there may be unexpected complications there, too. They, too, may have their hands full at the moment.

I contacted Unreal Mobile and the response I got was "Please be advised that the GSM service will remain the same for now. You can rest assured as you will be notified as soon as the changes are confirmed."
I am waiting for true cellular as I got a delay when testing Unreal for 3 months.

I may need to follow up with Ting when I get home from work - I could swear the Freedompop account for which I am the most inclined to try the free month of 20/20 just went from (paraphrasing) "We've got your account but it isn't ready yet" to "something isn't matching up" and are you sure that email address goes with that phone.

On the other hand, I might not bother because it's still a clunky old tablet and I don't think no calls, no texts, and maybe a few hundred megabytes a year that I could have used on my daily driver instead warrant keeping any of my former Freedompop CDMA devices on a plan. I don't even currently keep any of them sufficiently prepared for emergencies to warrant parking them on Tello prepaid.

I think a lot of us have older devices running KitKat that aren't really worth a paid option - I know a number of apps I use won't run on those ;'( . I do have one Marshmallow device that I might keep activated - and maybe one kitkat device as a hotspot since it works better for that than my R850. It'd be way cool if Ting would let us "trade up" older devices ...

BTW I use a few older devices as WiFi only "house phones" with Google Voice and VOIP.MS (VOIP service) and those don't need cell service at all. Also work great with remote control apps - fiddling with my Alexa devices as we "speak" :slight_smile: . Paid $25 new for this Oreo 8.1 smartphone :open_mouth: .

OTOH I'm hoping Ting will give as a final "cutting you off on xx/xx" notification (per device?) so we can subscribe last-minute if we decide. This ambiguity isn't winning them any brownie points :-/ . If they just cut me off without a final date notification and don't let me reactive one or more devices at the "special" rate I'll just take that as someone I don't want to do business with ...

RoadRanger writes: "I think a lot of us have older devices running KitKat that aren't really worth a paid option "

Sounds familiar. I have a couple of older phones that got re-purposed to FreedomPop use, and mostly kept those accounts live 'just because' (and because it was difficult to change devices) as time moved on. (Ditto for GSM SIMs-- i had global SIMs, added LTE SIMs since they suited my use better, and then kept & eventually converted the global SIMs, 'just because' it was easy and cheap to do so.

I'm expecting that Ting will allow easy device swaps on ex-FreedomPop (CDMA) lines, just as they have always done. It would be a mess to segregate those lines to treat differently, and would not bode well for customer retention to do otherwise. (EDIT: I saw a suggestion on another forum from a Ting Rep explaining the device swap process for FP-migrated lines, so it does appear this will work as usual)

Ting has said they'll get more aggressive about prodding folks to finish the migration as the deadline approaches, including redirects to Ting when placing a call, likely after multiple email warnings. The ambiguity of timing seems unavoidable at this point, since migrating accounts doesn't seem to be going as rapidly or smoothly as hoped.

My limited posting here should tell you how busy we are. There's definitely some remnants of how FP managed their Sprint data connections that are causing us to work a little harder than we expected.

Just to clarify for you guys (and I'd hope you spread the word)

  • If it seems like your formerly-FreedomPop migrated Ting devices are being throttled around the clock, please email me with your Ting email address and the affected phone numbers. mitch@ting.com

  • If you previously got a "crunching numbers" error message for your formerly-FP hotspots and are now getting a "something isn't matching up", use the MEID of the device rather than its phone number. You will still be given the option to cancel, port or pick a FP-Ting plan.

  • If you previously got a "crunching numbers" and are now getting a "something isn't matching up" on a phone number you don't care about, use the MEID of the device rather than the phone number. You will still be given the option to cancel, port or pick a FP-Ting plan.

  • If you previously got a "crunching numbers' and are now getting "something isn't matching up" on a phone number you want to keep, send an email to help@ting.com and put my name (Mitch) in the subject line so I'll be assigned to the case. We're working through a lot of these where stuff needs to be double-checked by a human to see if your number can make it over to Ting, because of a thing called Numbering Resources. Some VOIP numbers can't make the jump.

It might take me a few days to get back to you if you follow that last one, but rest assured if we can pull your phone number out of the thin air and hand-deliver it to you, we will do that.

I'd just like to know when the deadline is :-/ . I only use data so no redirects to Ting hit men for me LOL.

My R350 hotspot sez I've used 16.00 EB in the last 2 hours and 20 minutes - what the heck is an "EB" :open_mouth: ?

Yeah, you're probably not alone there. Probably best to keep an eye open for emails, and mentions on the forums, then.

Of course, one can always decide to be proactive and move on to your final destination, on your own schedule. (As soon as Ting has your devices ready for processing.) No chance of missing notification that way.

1 billion gigabytes.
I guess you downloaded the complete Internet.

"Extra Special" Byte vs AB or "Average Byte"

I just finished uploading myself to the internet - guess that's what used up the 16 EB LOL.

Hopefully I'l have DSL tomorrow so I don't have to use (abuse?) the hotspot anymore :slight_smile: .