The "Uber Frugal" and CellNuvo

realLexusl21 · March 30, 2019, 7:56pm

[quote="I_one_2"]

I feel like I'm in a Time Warp. Can't believe all this is starting again.

deleted · March 30, 2019, 8:23pm

[quote="lexusl21"]

Oh. You already knew about the freebie? My bad.

mark · March 30, 2019, 8:31pm

deleted · March 30, 2019, 9:53pm

mmfacemm:

unbeknownst to me:

mmfacemm:

unbeknownst to me:

What responsibility do the "Uber Frugal" bear in CellNuvo's current dilemma and Ringplus' demise? I conjecture that their responsibility may be quite significant.

From reading this forum it would appear there are many "Uber Frugal" individuals who have amassed huge amounts of CellNuvo silver/gold via obsessive swiping. I don't think this was ever meant to be the case, but was allowed via benign neglect by CellNuvo ( because it suited their purposes at the time).

unbeknownst to me:

" Thrift" is a wonderful concept. I am thrifty , as are my family and close friends. But extreme thrift ('Uber Thrift') is the flip side to "obsessive spending". Neither are productive or positive.

The Nthcircle is a wonderful resource (if not the best!) for thrift news and concepts. But sometimes, quite a few of the NthCircle comments/threads lean towards an obsessive 'Uber Thriftness" : particularly as it relates to CellNuvo swiping.

But in the final analysis, CellNuvo and RingPlus must bear the responsibility for not anticipating the impact of the "Uber Frugal" segment upon their business plan.

Somehow blaming frugal people for the issues of these two companies precisely designed for frugal people doesn't make any sense. I am not sure where you pulled this logic from. It is a senseless attack on people who choose to use services like cellnuvo.https://www.nthcircle.com/forum/cellnuvo/2585-the-uber-frugal-and-cellnuvo/edit/36050

Ringplus collapsed because it didn't attract enough frugal people! Ringplus had very little to do with customers not spending enough money on the services or using too much data etc. Ringplus had targets for customer numbers set in partnership with sprint and it failed to meet them by a large margin. It simply was not able to attract enough customers with ever increasing allotments and wacky plan names, social media, flash promos and hype. It then fell out for whatever reason with the company it relied on (sprint) and it was game over.

Cellnuvo thrives when customers swipe for ads. Amassing gold = more money for cellnuvo. So the precise opposite of what you say. To put it into perspective since the start of the amazon and carrier payments each account has been able to withdraw about $1300 over the 16 or so months. There was opportunity for almost everyone to cash everything out. Since some customers didn't take that opportunity cellnuvo didn't have to pay out as much.
The achilles heel of cellnuvo is the fact that ads are not uniformly spread over a year. People panic during ad dry spells like right now. Their other issue is communication is very weak leading to a whole host of problems. There must have been some money management errors in there too. None of which has to do with frugal customers. Cellnuvo needs more frugal customers and more people willing to swipe ads. And if they amass gold instead of spending it then all the better for cellnuvo.

mmfacemm wrote: "Somehow blaming frugal people for the issues of these two companies precisely designed for frugal people doesn't make any sense. I am not sure where you pulled this logic from. It is a senseless attack on people who choose to use services like cellnuvo."

Never my intention or thought.
As I explained, there is a huge difference between the Frugal and "Uber Frugal' segments.
This 'difference is evidenced in life style and priorities.
The Frugal segment represent a very attractive consumer base for many companies/advertisers.
Not so for the "Uber Frugal"
Often enough , the Uber Frugal segment can make locust look like butterflies when it comes to decimating a company or well intentioned government program.

Now you are just talking "Uber" BS

mmfacemm wrote: "Now you are just talking "Uber" BS"

Well then, so much for "ad rem" discussion.

Sigh

mmfacemm · March 30, 2019, 11:34pm

Uber sigh

realLexusl21 · March 31, 2019, 2:07am

unbeknownst to me:

mmfacemm:

unbeknownst to me:

mmfacemm:

unbeknownst to me:

What responsibility do the "Uber Frugal" bear in CellNuvo's current dilemma and Ringplus' demise? I conjecture that their responsibility may be quite significant.

From reading this forum it would appear there are many "Uber Frugal" individuals who have amassed huge amounts of CellNuvo silver/gold via obsessive swiping. I don't think this was ever meant to be the case, but was allowed via benign neglect by CellNuvo ( because it suited their purposes at the time).

unbeknownst to me:

" Thrift" is a wonderful concept. I am thrifty , as are my family and close friends. But extreme thrift ('Uber Thrift') is the flip side to "obsessive spending". Neither are productive or positive.

The Nthcircle is a wonderful resource (if not the best!) for thrift news and concepts. But sometimes, quite a few of the NthCircle comments/threads lean towards an obsessive 'Uber Thriftness" : particularly as it relates to CellNuvo swiping.

But in the final analysis, CellNuvo and RingPlus must bear the responsibility for not anticipating the impact of the "Uber Frugal" segment upon their business plan.

Somehow blaming frugal people for the issues of these two companies precisely designed for frugal people doesn't make any sense. I am not sure where you pulled this logic from. It is a senseless attack on people who choose to use services like cellnuvo.https://www.nthcircle.com/forum/cellnuvo/2585-the-uber-frugal-and-cellnuvo/edit/36050

Ringplus collapsed because it didn't attract enough frugal people! Ringplus had very little to do with customers not spending enough money on the services or using too much data etc. Ringplus had targets for customer numbers set in partnership with sprint and it failed to meet them by a large margin. It simply was not able to attract enough customers with ever increasing allotments and wacky plan names, social media, flash promos and hype. It then fell out for whatever reason with the company it relied on (sprint) and it was game over.

Cellnuvo thrives when customers swipe for ads. Amassing gold = more money for cellnuvo. So the precise opposite of what you say. To put it into perspective since the start of the amazon and carrier payments each account has been able to withdraw about $1300 over the 16 or so months. There was opportunity for almost everyone to cash everything out. Since some customers didn't take that opportunity cellnuvo didn't have to pay out as much.
The achilles heel of cellnuvo is the fact that ads are not uniformly spread over a year. People panic during ad dry spells like right now. Their other issue is communication is very weak leading to a whole host of problems. There must have been some money management errors in there too. None of which has to do with frugal customers. Cellnuvo needs more frugal customers and more people willing to swipe ads. And if they amass gold instead of spending it then all the better for cellnuvo.

mmfacemm wrote: "Somehow blaming frugal people for the issues of these two companies precisely designed for frugal people doesn't make any sense. I am not sure where you pulled this logic from. It is a senseless attack on people who choose to use services like cellnuvo."

Never my intention or thought.
As I explained, there is a huge difference between the Frugal and "Uber Frugal' segments.
This 'difference is evidenced in life style and priorities.
The Frugal segment represent a very attractive consumer base for many companies/advertisers.
Not so for the "Uber Frugal"
Often enough , the Uber Frugal segment can make locust look like butterflies when it comes to decimating a company or well intentioned government program.

Now you are just talking "Uber" BS

mmfacemm wrote: "Now you are just talking "Uber" BS"

Well then, so much for "ad rem" discussion.

Sigh

Double "Uber" sigh