Free Speech & Milo

I intended to suggest that a little humor on college campuses might be of help until one of your good links took me to another link where I discovered that comedians are no longer welcome on college campuses, for they upset the students.:ohmy: Oh My. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2015/09/11/george-carlin-loved-colleges-today-he-wouldnt-even-be-welcome-there/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.e5a5685bbbf0

"I intended to suggest that a little humor on college campuses might be of help until one of your good links took me to another link where I discovered that comedians are no longer welcome on college campuses, for they upset the students."

It does seem most forms of humor are at the expense of someone. During an office training class on effective working relationships, the instructor gave numerous examples of this and essentially recommended against engaging in any type of humorous banter in a work setting. Whether this is sound advice from a human relations perspective alone or whether it is also motivated by a desire to ward off workplace lawsuits I do not know.

Fortunately, there is apparently an expert group looking into all these matters.

Ah, the "Humor Journal". I read somewhere on the internet that this group was founded by members of Monty Python as a joke. I much prefer the concinnity and directness of the humor exhibited by the gentleman in the following video. And perhaps he would not offend college students. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3bsrkH1ZCY

That video is hilarious!

I wish the following article on humor on college campuses was. The great comedian Lenny Bruce went to jail for his belief in freedom of speech. What is happening to comedy on college campuses today would make him cry.

It seems some feel Milo deserves to be heard and at the expense of the taxpayer.

Google is seen by some as suppressing free speech.

The White House.

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On this International Women's Day (and Day Without a Woman) it may be useful to reflect that "free speech" was certainly denied to even the most gifted members of that gender and not simply in this part of the world.

What a wonderful idea to hire Yiannopoulos, Brittain, and Shkreli as government employees of the current administration, though I do not agree that all three should be speechwriters. If I had my druthers, I would find Milo an important position with the Dept. of Justice's child pornagraphy division, for he may have a keen insight into such matters. As for Brittain, he would would fit in well as the White house media coordinator, and I think Mr. Shkreli could do great service in negotiating drug prices for Medicaid..

As far as Google suppressing free speech, this is nothing new and no one is forcing people to use the Chrome Browser. So I suggest that these people start using the Tor Browser, but be wary of the government employees lurking about there.

Cheers for women throughout the world who have, in spite of a long, ugly history of oppression, accomplished so much and enriched the lives of all humans. Sad to say, the struggle is not over, but we can see the promised land.

In case anyone is wondering how media outlets balance "coverage" of issues with concerns about the bottom line, the link below is interesting.

Professor Allison Stranger who was injured following the presentation at Middlebury College has written an article on the event that is in the Op Ed section of the New York Times.

Nice summary of what took place from someone at the very heart of the incident. The professor highlights several issues that we have discussed on this thread. But his emphasis on the fact that many students and some professors had not read the speaker's work, and had not studied the objections to his work, and were thereby basing their objections on hearsay rather than logical arguments, was an important point. Perhaps we can learn from how one of the world's finest schools held "rational" debates in 1965. Sorry about the quality of the following video and its' length.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFeoS41xe7w&list=PLwmc0XKbzUp41qaL4pbL8Aouy-o63kFaV

In keeping with the fine traditions of a free press, the Washington Post has published a photo of the green water in the fountain on the White House Lawn in honor of St. Patrick's Day on March 15.

Certainly, it is nice to see such a touching tradition being reenacted.

Of course, many of Irish descent in the United States might prefer if the correct date of March 17 were used (perhaps the CBO might consult on this matter?).

St. Patrick did banish the snakes from Ireland (reportedly) but in a peaceful manner, unlike the way poor Julius was treated on the Ides of March.

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In keeping with the fine traditions of a free press, the Washington Post has published a photo of the green water in the fountain on the White House Lawn in honor of St. Patrick's Day on March 15.

Certainly, it is nice to see such a touching tradition being reenacted.

Of course, many of Irish descent in the United States might prefer if the correct date of March 17 were used (perhaps the CBO might consult on this matter?).

St. Patrick did banish the snakes from Ireland (reportedly) but in a peaceful manner, unlike the way poor Julius was treated on the Ides of March.

**Google: images of Irish Need Not Apply signs.

You don't need to be a brain surgeon to figure out the truth.

What next, slaves were immigrants?

What sort of interesting is that the professor mentioned above wrote his article in 2002. In 1998 in was visiting a historically preserved factory in Lowell, Mass. once visited and touted by Charles Dickens as a model for future labor. And wouldn't you know it, there were a few "No Irish Need Apply" signs as big as day posted on the factory walls. How did the professor not know of those signs that were viewed by thousands of visitors a year. ???? Perhaps they were historically fake signs.

It is true that the Irish experienced discrimination here in the US but they were certainly not the only group who were treated this way.

In fact, they experienced far more discrimination in their native land for roughly 8 centuries under British rule including the mass starvation during the Great Famine. To this date, the population has not recovered to anywhere near the pre-Famine levels.

Interestingly St. Patrick originally came to Ireland as an "immigrant" (involuntary). Having escaped back home, he had a dream that inspired him to return to Ireland as a missionary and the rest is, as they say, history.

Quite an interesting piece from Brookings on "illiberal" colleges with some revealing data on the socio-economic status of students at Middlebury College which apparently costs around $64,000/year.

Had I loudly announced that I had voted for Trump, I would not be here today to relate this sad story.

You wisely chose discretion over valor.:lol:

Actually talking about politics in a public place is generally only slightly more risky than talking about it elsewhere.

In fact talking about anything is risky.

What may be even riskier is not talking because then people really start to worry.

"Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look, he thinks too much."

People encouraged Caesar to get over than paranoia and then came the Ides of March which we commemorated yesterday.

Nowhere is safe.

It seems as if the State Department has some reservations about "free speech" when it is the subject being discussed.

It seems as if the Department of Homeland Security has a problem with free speech on Twitter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/files/2017/04/TwitterDHS.pdf?tid=a_inl

"The State Department has a lot of budget cuts in the offing as the Trump administration downsizes it, and now there's a new
item on the gone ­missing list — its sense of humor"

Ah, humor, the bastion of free speech. It seems to me, though I have no solid evidence, that the sphere of comedy or humor has long enjoyed the fruits of free speech more so than most areas of human communication. It is amazing what one can say about a person or group without opprobrium or negative legal repercussions coming one's way, provided that what was said was done in the "spirit" of comedy or humor..Yesterday's death of Don Rickles, the maestro of insult comedy, brings to mind the freedom of speech that comedians have enjoyed in the media and on public platforms in humorously saying whatever they want, speech, that if it had been spoken seriously, might well have been considered illegal.

Hence: Say it with humor and not to worry.:lol:

Ann Coulter still plans to speak after Berkeley called off here scheduled speech next week.

I acceded to Berkeley's every silly demand (never made of lib speakers). Called their bluff & they canceled anyway.