Swappa-purchased iPhone is now blacklisted

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2 weeks 10 hours ago #47194 by Aurmin
I bought an iPhone 8 Plus from Swappa back in April 2019. I’ve only used it on the T-mobile network: Mint mobile through Jan 2020 then T-Mobile postpaid since. I was planning to port my number to Totalwireless, but the phone can’t be activated according to Totalwireless’s IMEI checker. I then checked Swappa’s IMEI checker and the phone is now blacklisted. I’ve just emailed the seller on Swappa asking for some assistance, but I realize he has no responsibility anymore—I’m at his mercy for any help.

So I know I won’t be able to sell the phone on Swappa. Is selling the phone for parts the best I can do with it? Will T-Mobile eventually kick the phone off its network?

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2 weeks 4 hours ago #47195 by Isamorph

Aurmin wrote: I bought an iPhone 8 Plus from Swappa back in April 2019. I’ve only used it on the T-mobile network: Mint mobile through Jan 2020 then T-Mobile postpaid since. I was planning to port my number to Totalwireless, but the phone can’t be activated according to Totalwireless’s IMEI checker. I then checked Swappa’s IMEI checker and the phone is now blacklisted. I’ve just emailed the seller on Swappa asking for some assistance, but I realize he has no responsibility anymore—I’m at his mercy for any help.

So I know I won’t be able to sell the phone on Swappa. Is selling the phone for parts the best I can do with it? Will T-Mobile eventually kick the phone off its network?


Is the phone unlocked to work on any carrier, for Total wireless uses the Verizon network I believe, and the phone may be locked to GSM networks? Blacklisted means the phone has been reported lost or stolen, which is odd in that it must have been reported as such recently since I doubt Swappa would sell a blacklisted phone and, if they did, I doubt you could have activated it at all. Have you tried some GSM IMEI checkers to see if the phone is accepted?

www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/iphone-locked-3614824/

www.phonecheck.com/blog/blacklisted-phone#:~:text=If%20a%20phone%20is%20blacklisted,authorities%20could%20seize%20your%20phone .
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2 weeks 1 hour ago #47197 by Aurmin
@ Isamorph Thank you for the recommendations. I used IMEI24.com, below are the results:
SIMLock status: unlocked
Blacklist status: clean
Verizon Financial check/Blacklist status: clean

So I’m not sure what’s going on. I’m just a little bummed that I won’t be able to sell the phone on Swappa.

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2 weeks 1 hour ago - 2 weeks 1 hour ago #47198 by KentE
Odd that Swappa/Total would show it as blacklisted, while IMEI24 says it's not.

Have you tried Verizon's check tool?
www.verizon.com/onedp/byod#/deviceType
(This would only give results for Verizon itself, but I think a blacklisted device would show as such.)

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2 weeks 1 hour ago #47199 by bingyee
Does the phone still work on T-Mobile? Does the IMEI check out OK on T-Mobile's IMEI checker? www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone

If yes, you could reasonably market this as a T-Mobile only phone on eBay.

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2 weeks 38 minutes ago - 2 weeks 38 minutes ago #47200 by Isamorph

Aurmin wrote: @ Isamorph Thank you for the recommendations. I used IMEI24.com, below are the results:
SIMLock status: unlocked
Blacklist status: clean
Verizon Financial check/Blacklist status: clean

So I’m not sure what’s going on. I’m just a little bummed that I won’t be able to sell the phone on Swappa.


I'm not sure how to interpret the SIMlock status in that some phones are sold as unlocked meaning they can be used on any GSM carrier, whereas other phones sold as unlocked means they can be used on GSM and CDMA networks. I don't know much about iPhones but I did notice Swappa does sell iPhone 8 pluses that are locked to certain carriers such as T-mobile, Verizon, etc. as well as unlocked any carrier iphones.

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2 weeks 12 minutes ago #47201 by Aurmin
Thanks for the responses everyone. I may go the eBay router later, good idea. Below are screenshots.

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2 weeks 10 minutes ago #47202 by Aurmin
Yes, my phone is still active on T-mo postpaid. I was hoping to port out to Totalwireless before my current billing cycle ends.

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1 week 6 days ago #47205 by Isamorph

Aurmin wrote: Yes, my phone is still active on T-mo postpaid. I was hoping to port out to Totalwireless before my current billing cycle ends.


I was searching for what the "global" blacklist is and it's apparently a GSMA blacklist. Don't know if you tried the following for global blacklist, but might be interesting.

eimei24.com/check/blacklist/

swappa.com/faq/answer/esn-whitelist-blacklist

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1 week 6 days ago #47207 by Aurmin

Isamorph wrote:

Aurmin wrote: Yes, my phone is still active on T-mo postpaid. I was hoping to port out to Totalwireless before my current billing cycle ends.


I was searching for what the "global" blacklist is and it's apparently a GSMA blacklist. Don't know if you tried the following for global blacklist, but might be interesting.

eimei24.com/check/blacklist/

swappa.com/faq/answer/esn-whitelist-blacklist


Here it is:


Interestingly, I called Verizon and the rep told me that the phone is unlocked for activation but has an “FIMC lock” of sorts, something related to Find My iPhone (not sure what the C is for). She says that I can use the phone to start a new Verizon line, to which I said no. Strange because Find My iPhone is under my Apple ID. Additionally, my wife’s iPhone 7 Plus has Find My iPhone turned on, yet her IMEI passes in TW’s, Verizon’s, and Swappa’s checker. I’ll do a little test—I toggled off Find My iPhone, and I confirmed that my phone is no longer displayed in my iCloud.com account. Perhaps I’ll leave Find My iPhone toggled off for some time and hope that the phone will get whitelisted again? I don’t know—I’ll try calling TW, but I’m not counting on them being able to help.
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