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1 month 2 days ago - 1 month 2 days ago #46921 by redrotors

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The location we went to was the Bronx. It looks like it may still be a bad area......


Da Bronx is a funny borough. One min. you are in Riverdale or city island or a tight little jr. mafia neighborhood or co-op city, the next, go a few blocks or a mile and it's fort apache. I once found a girlfriend (who was totally clueless re NYC) a nice safe little basement apt. near Albert Einstein college of medicine by reading through the ads in the local Italian language paper. The little Italian lady who owned/lived in the house was a little surprised to see a little Okinawan decent Hawaiian girl show up. She got a LOT of sideways looks from the neighbors for a long time, very insular (& pretty safe*) neighborhood though.

* I did have my mustang convertible "borrowed" off the street. NYPD found it a few days later parked unharmed other than busted ignition/column lock, tread depth was still even front to back so I don't think they even did a burnout.

Speaking of that old GF, another NYC tale. Her little brother came to visit. First time ever on the E. coast let alone a big city, he was raised mostly in bumfluck WA, I suppose Seattle or Honolulu were the biggest cities he had seen. Picked him up at LGA. The look of terror in his eyes during the ride from Queens to Bronx was priceless. I was slicing and dicing away on the grand central pkwy., looked in the rear view and started laughing. Mouth agape, eyes bulging, he thought he was gonna die. Sis looked back at him and busted out. Told him I charge for amusement park ride thrills.
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3 weeks 12 hours ago #47120 by 112059
How much would it take to get you to stand where these officers stood?

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3 weeks 11 hours ago #47123 by golan
The police exaggerate how dangerous their jobs are and too many people fall for their emotional manipulation.

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3 weeks 3 hours ago - 3 weeks 3 hours ago #47125 by Chelle

golan wrote: The police exaggerate how dangerous their jobs are and too many people fall for their emotional manipulation.


I feel confident that the 89 officers who died in the line of duty, last year, were not exaggerating.

The same goes for the 65 who died in the first half of 2020.
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3 weeks 2 hours ago #47126 by Soteria 2.0
www.google.com/amp/s/mynorthwest.com/2038728/rantz-peaceful-seattle-protesters-destroy-property-cops/amp/

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Rantz: ‘Peaceful’ Seattle protesters peacefully destroy property, injure cops



Significant Property Damage, Officers Injured During Protest


Jul 20, 2020
In response to community concerns, we are releasing body-worn video around the Sunday afternoon protests where 12 officers were injured.

In the following video, you can see that as protestors approached the West Precinct officers saw a man walk up to the secured garage doors of the building and hold an umbrella up to intentionally block the view of a security camera. Officers moved in to escort the person away from the doors and were immediately assaulted with bottles, street cones, and fireworks. One officer was struck in the neck and injured by fragmentation from one of the explosions resulting in that officer being hospitalized.
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3 weeks 1 hour ago #47127 by Soteria 2.0
www.conserve-energy-future.com/effects-solutions-open-burning.php
Disastrous effects of fire on the Environment.

Materials such as plastics have some toxic chemicals which once pre-disposed in the air; they pose not only a danger to the environment but also become a health concern for life

Fires set, fences moved: Police call Portland protest a riot
www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesunion.com/news/amp/Fires-set-fences-moved-Police-call-Portland-15418651.php

www.google.com/amp/s/www.koin.com/news/protests/protests-continue-for-more-than-6-weeks-at-justice-center/amp/
Bonfire lights the 45th night of protests in downtown Portland

www.google.com/amp/s/www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/07/iconic-portland-elk-statue-removed-from-downtown-after-fire-set-during-protest.html%3foutputType=amp

www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/amp/OPD-on-protests-137-arson-fires-more-than-200-15332043.php
Oakland police on protests: 137 arson fires, more than 200 businesses looted, vandalized



When are the Activists
going to condemn this wanton disregard of the Environment?
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3 weeks 40 minutes ago - 2 weeks 6 days ago #47128 by KentE

Chelle wrote:

golan wrote: The police exaggerate how dangerous their jobs are and too many people fall for their emotional manipulation.


I feel confident that the 89 officers who died in the line of duty, last year, were not exaggerating.

The same goes for the 65 who died in the first half of 2020.


I feel confident that the 1004 civilians killed by police officers in 2019 are just as dead.
My personal feeling is that both death tolls are 'too many'.

Past that, it's dangerous to extrapolate too far from either of those data points without more information.

800,000 estimated police offers in the US in 2020. 89 deaths is 0.01%. The odds are very low, but t's also 89 too many.

Other odd data points that are also dangerous to extrapolate from:
Only 27% of police officers have needed to fire their weapon in the act of duty during their entire careers.
33% of Americans will be involved in a driving-while-intoxicated accident during their lives.
A police officer is more likely to be involved in a driving while intoxicated accident than to need to discharge his weapon during duty.

Purely by percentages, around 30 police officers would die during a given year in driving-while-intoxicated accidents, or nearly 1/3 as many deaths as the 89 'line of duty' deaths quoted above.
Both are too many.

There is no doubt in my mind that police officers are mentally and physically stressed from knowing that they are regularly put into situations that can turn violent, often with little or no warning. The constant worry about that would keep me from wanting to take on the obligation, even if the odds of dying on duty were low. Of course, if I knew the work-accident death rate in my profession, I might be afraid to do that, either.

EDIT To ADD:
I think the brightest lights among us are interested in thinking about whether it's possible to affect changes in both police forces, and in society, to lower both police deaths and civilian deaths. What could be better than that? It doesn't have to be one or the other.
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2 weeks 6 days ago #47129 by golan
"Nurses planted more than 160 pairs of shoes on the Capitol lawn to remember colleagues who've died from coronavirus"

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/07/22/us/nurses-shoes-us-capitol-coronavirus-deaths-trnd/

So it's more dangerous to be a nurse than a police officer. Cue outrage against those responsible for the death of nurses.
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2 weeks 6 days ago #47131 by PEW

golan wrote: The police exaggerate how dangerous their jobs are and too many people fall for their emotional manipulation.


Where's military? These charts tend to include military.

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2 weeks 5 days ago #47146 by tech-stitch
Great points shared. I would say KentE's statement "My personal feeling is that both death tolls are 'too many'" is absolutely spot on.

After all, one person can literally be or mean the world to another person. Without him/her, that person would be left alone in total despair (of course bot the case for absolutely everyone).
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