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3 months 1 day ago #44432 by Soteria 2.0
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KentE wrote: Yes, it was a very mixed message from the government, and one that made no sense to anyone who thought it through-- except for the part that it was/is more important for hospital staff, first responders, and those working in essential industry, to have them than for the general public to have them.

The supply is woefully inadequate, and any statement in the early days advising their use by the general public would have further worsened the supply problem. So, the public was left to read between the lines, and do the research, and do what could be done.




KentE,
You are such a good, kind man.
It is evident in your assessment.
I however am not feeling so nice.
I would like to change mixed messages, to blatant lies.
It is very offensive that they would have so little regard for the public, that they would tell us that malarkey.
It did not make any sense.


I honestly believe they know masks are important but have steered clear of saying so because we are running a deficit for health care workers on medical supplies and they want the public supply routed to them instead first. That was the delay in just admitting you should wear one.

I absolutely understand the importance of the healthcare workers, first responders and essential workers to have protective equipment.
I would never want to deny them access to critical equipment.
It is crucial for their protection.
They put their lives at risk everyday, attempting to save lives of others.
It hurts to see them go without the protection they require.
I still take exception to the blatant lies and the thought, that we should believe the nonsense.

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3 months 1 day ago #44433 by Soteria 2.0
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ABS-CBN News

Apr 1
Japan to give face masks to 50 million households to fight #COVID19

news.abs-cbn.com


Hold my beer.

U.S. Surgeon General
Jerome Adams
shows public how to make your own mask. :)

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3 months 1 day ago #44434 by jamielih
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PEW wrote: Bad news for those with pet tigers... and Tiger King too, I guess.

time.com/5815939/tiger-bronx-zoo-positive-coronavirus/

I heard gold chain leashes cures Tigers of coronavirus

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3 months 1 day ago #44435 by Soteria 2.0
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st3fx wrote: Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, & Azithromycin


abc7.com/health/la-doctor-seeing-success-with-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-covid-19/6079864/

ETA:
"There are academic physicians who are not in the front lines sit in their labs, and they criticize and say, 'well, we need to do studies. A double-blind controlled study.' It will take three to six months. That's very good in peace times. But there are people dying every second, and we don't have the luxury of time. So when we're in a war, there's battlefield medicine. You have to take the initiative; you have to be brave; you have to try things."
-Dr. Vladimir Zelenko



With World War II the first information on the potential efficacy of antimalarials in rheumatic diseases was revealed. American soldiers who fought in the Pacific region received antimalarials in prophylaxis. Reduction of the severity of lesions and symptoms of arthritis was observed [2]. It led to further research on the efficacy and application of AD for the treatment of autoimmune diseases.

Quite by accident and the evidence being merely anecdotal. Which then led to further research.
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3 months 23 hours ago #44436 by Soteria 2.0
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"Folks who don't know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces a lot and actually can increase the spread of coronavirus," Jerome Adams told Fox & Friends at the beginning of March. Yet in the same interview, Adams described how many seconds it takes to correctly wash one’s hands. The CDC and WHO have poured considerable resources into numerous websites, tweets, and videos that encourage frequent handwashing and meticulously demonstrate proper technique. If it’s possible to educate the public about better hand hygiene, why not teach them how to wear masks, too?

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3 months 23 hours ago #44437 by Soteria 2.0
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Exodus

Culling the Herd

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3 months 22 hours ago #44438 by Soteria 2.0
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cull the herd.

Literally, to separate or remove (and usually kill) inferior animals out of a herd so as to reduce numbers or remove undesirable traits from the group as a whole. We had to quickly cull the herd when it came to light that some might be carrying an infectious disease.

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3 months 22 hours ago #44439 by Soteria 2.0
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The UK is scrambling to correct its coronavirus strategy
Boris Johnson coronavirus cove-19
A new report issued by a group of experts advising the UK government offers a blistering assessment of the country’s previous “herd immunity” approach to coronavirus, suggesting that as many as 250,000 people could die as a result—and that it would do little to stop health-care facilities from being overwhelmed.

The background: Last week, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced that his country would adopt a different coronavirus strategy from the ones its European neighbors have followed. Most governments have sought to suppress the spread of the virus by reducing mass gatherings, imposing quarantine restrictions, and encouraging social distancing. But Johnson said the country would forgo such measures with an unusual plan to prevent the outbreak from overwhelming the health-care system and protect the most vulnerable groups during peak infection seasons.


Under the strategy, at least 60% of the population were expected to contract the virus and get better—mostly younger individuals who would face only a mild form of illness.



The government believed this would result in a “herd immunity” that would subsequently protect vulnerable groups from infection, while avoiding “behavioral fatigue” that would cause people to stop cooperating with safety measures over time.

Sharp realizations: That strategy was met with fierce criticism over the weekend. The Covid-19 Response Team based at Imperial College in London revealed on Monday that the government’s experts realized only over the last few days that its policy would “likely result in hundreds of thousands of deaths”—potentially 250,000—and that the burden on health systems would exceed their capacities and resources by as much as eight times.

"We were expecting herd immunity to build,” Azra Ghani, head of infectious disease epidemiology at Imperial College, told reporters Monday. “We now realize it’s not possible to cope with that.”



Cull the herd.
Get rid of the weak, sick and elderly.
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3 months 18 hours ago - 3 months 18 hours ago #44444 by Isamorph
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There are 1.5 million Lupus patients in the US, some of whom cannot get their medication (Hydroxychloroquine) refilled and are being told by Healthcare providers "thanks for your sacrifice" and that hopefully they will be able to get a refill in the near future. This while Dr. Fauci is under attack by the Alt Right. Why?

annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764065/rush-judgment-rapid-reporting-dissemination-results-its-consequences-regarding-use

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/927307

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/kaiser-permanente-lupus-chloroquine

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3 months 18 hours ago - 3 months 18 hours ago #44445 by realLexusl21
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As stated many times.lupus patients should reach out to their Dr to get the meds. These drs will have samples and know where to get meds for lupus patients.

If anyone here knows or has family/friends. Pls pass this information on.

No patients should sacrifice for another.
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