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2 months 3 weeks ago - 2 months 3 weeks ago #38881 by realLexusl21
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Sounds like 13 Sims was pure abuse. Taking advantage of a small company. Forcing them out of business.

That abuse ruined it for the honest users.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #38882 by Nunodat
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lexusl21 wrote: Sounds like 13 Sims was pure abuse. Taking advantage of a small company. Forcing them out of business.

That abuse ruined it for the honest users.


i think the 13 SIM scenario was anecdotal. Either way, the company allowed it and there's no proof the practice led to their demise.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #38883 by realLexusl21
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Anyone who admitted to such a 13 sim scam. Should be ashamed of themselves. Since it is saved on the internet forever. This same person has the audacity to accuse others.

"Thou protests too much"

Only a partner in the scam would protect such a abuser.
Same person has attacked me.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #38884 by KentE
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Nunodat wrote:

lexusl21 wrote: Sounds like 13 Sims was pure abuse. Taking advantage of a small company. Forcing them out of business.

That abuse ruined it for the honest users.


i think the 13 SIM scenario was anecdotal. Either way, the company allowed it and there's no proof the practice led to their demise.


Although any individual instance may be anecdotal, the existence of such users is assuredly not merely anecdotal. They exist.

It's a quandary similar companies are frequently faced with-- their business model depends on growing numbers fairly rapidly, and the easiest market for such growth is those who are already customers. FreedomPop marketed to those existing customers knowing it would happen, and encouraged it. The bottom-line 'account' growth mattered more to FP than limiting the number of devices one customer could have.

It's possible that Red Pocket may not have the same view about multiple accounts belonging to a single user.

Re: friend's bonus-- this is currently a relatively small boost, amounting to 50mb a month maximum. We don't know whether Red Pocket will maintain this offer, which could always be changed (and was) at the sole discretion of the company.
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2 months 3 weeks ago #38885 by realLexusl21
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At the time of the abuser using 13 sim cards the bonus was quite large.

When the lowered it because of abuse. The 13 sim abuser got stuck with 13 sim cards.

These same people use a double standard and came after anyone using cellnuvo.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #38886 by Nunodat
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KentE wrote: It's a quandary similar companies are frequently faced with-- their business model depends on growing numbers fairly rapidly, and the easiest market for such growth is those who are already customers. FreedomPop marketed to those existing customers knowing it would happen, and encouraged it. The bottom-line 'account' growth mattered more to FP than limiting the number of devices one customer could have.


Agreed. Brings to mind practices similar to Sprint's free year of service, Cellnuvo allowing multiple accounts, T-Mobile free lines for life (+equipment) etc. Companies are keenly aware of customer practices. If it's fine with the company, it's likely not abuse. As stated earlier,

johnsmith wrote: In the early days they encouraged multiple devices and SIMS on Forums like SlickDeals etc.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #38887 by Nunodat
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lexusl21 wrote: At the time of the abuser using 13 sim cards the bonus was quite large.

When the lowered it because of abuse. The 13 sim abuser got stuck with 13 sim cards.

These same people use a double standard and came after anyone using cellnuvo.


For the love of Pete. Give it a break. There is absolutely no way one person with "13 SIMs" caused the demise of Freedompop. Good grief.

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2 months 3 weeks ago #38888 by KentE
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Nunodat wrote:

lexusl21 wrote: At the time of the abuser using 13 sim cards the bonus was quite large.

When the lowered it because of abuse. The 13 sim abuser got stuck with 13 sim cards.

These same people use a double standard and came after anyone using cellnuvo.


For the love of Pete. Give it a break. There is absolutely no way one person with "13 SIMs" caused the demise of Freedompop. Good grief.


Honestly-- yes, it can hasten the demise of a company to grow numbers this way. (While there is 'absolutely no way for one person with 13 SIMs" to cause serious difficulties, it's entirely possible that a significant number of users with multiple free accounts can hasten the demise-- it violates the other intended metric of depending on customer upgrades to paid accounts to get 'more'.)

It's a double-edged sword for a company-- the numbers grow, but the true customer base (and especially the paying customers) do not. Most companies depending on this for growth have a item in their TOS that prohibits it, and choose to turn a blind eye as long as they feel the numbers growth justifies the drawbacks.

An example from another MVNO-- FreeUP limits free accounts to one line per discreet user, but leaves it up to the customers (up to now) to be self-policing about this policy.
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2 months 3 weeks ago #38889 by Nunodat
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KentE wrote: FreedomPop marketed to those existing customers knowing it would happen, and encouraged it. The bottom-line 'account' growth mattered more to FP than limiting the number of devices one customer could have.


No abuse by multiple SIM people.

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2 months 3 weeks ago - 2 months 3 weeks ago #38891 by ghoul31
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An example from another MVNO-- FreeUP limits free accounts to one line per discreet user, but leaves it up to the customers (up to now) to be self-policing about this policy.


FreeUP doesn't give any free data because they knew it would be abused with multiple free accounts
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